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		<title>Pausing under the clouds: A how-to guide for getting out of the grey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mel Green</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hungry, angry, lonely, tired: some of the things to be mindful about when life starts looking like shit. Again. <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2010/01/19/pausing-under-the-clouds/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><div><a class="addthis_button" href="//addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250" addthis:url='http://www.henkimaa.com/2010/01/19/pausing-under-the-clouds/' addthis:title='Pausing under the clouds: A how-to guide for getting out of the grey '><img src="//cache.addthis.com/cachefly/static/btn/v2/lg-share-en.gif" width="125" height="16" alt="Bookmark and Share" style="border:0"/></a></div>


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<p>In the grey.</p>
<p>What better time to write yet another post about depression? Or, rather, about the process of dealing with it.</p>
<p>Over a medium-length life (so far), I&#8217;ve learned a lot about how to deal with this stuff.  It&#8217;s something of an art, really.  Some of its practicalities can be handily recalled by use an acronym I used to hear people in 12-step groups use: <strong>H.A.L.T.</strong> As in, if you&#8217;re a recovering alcoholic, recovering drug addict, or recovering emotional wreck — the latter of which fits me — &amp; feel a tempted to fall back into your addiction, <em>HALT</em> (or at least pause)  &amp; consider whether you are:</p>
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<li><strong>H</strong>ungry</li>
<li><strong>A</strong>ngry</li>
<li><strong>L</strong>onely</li>
<li><strong>T</strong>ired</li>
</ul>
<p>These don&#8217;t cover everything &#8212; taking care of oneself is an art, not something that can be summed up completely in any kind of rulebook. This is just stuff that it&#8217;s good to be mindful of, tailored to an individual&#8217;s own best practices for thinking about &amp; dealing with any of these aspects of one&#8217;s day to day life.</p>
<p><strong>Tired.</strong> For me personally, <em>tired</em> covers not getting enough sleep but also includes emotional exhaustion from , taking on too much (which is why I now avoid joining the boards of nonprofits), overstimulation, &amp; so on. Overstimulation? — too much noise, too many people: see below.  If I feel myself tipping towards the pit — time to cut back, alone time, get lots of sleep, etc.</p>
<p><strong>Lonely.</strong> I&#8217;m pretty much a loner — hence my frequent username <em>yksin</em>, a Finnish word (deriving from <em>yksi</em> = <em>one</em>) which means <em>by oneself, solitary, singlehandedly</em>, and related meanings.  But it can also mean <em>lonely</em>.  Sometimes I get completely wrecked from being too much around other people or too much noise, so I need lots of time to myself — not too much of a problem these days, since I essentially live alone nowadays — but on the other hand, I still need to keep in touch with the people I care about, who care about me. At times in my life I&#8217;ve found it incredibly difficult to ask for help — or even to remember that I <em>can</em> ask for help.  I do better nowadays than I did when I was younger.  In practice, <em>lonely</em> is more an issue for when I go into the pit, than it is for the grey.  With the grey, I&#8217;m better off not having to talk with anyone.</p>
<p><strong>Angry.</strong> A friend of mine told me not long ago that she sometimes had to switch off outrageous news because she&#8217;d get so angry she&#8217;d want to punch the TV — but for me the pattern is <em>explode then implode</em> — &amp; this pattern holds whether its people I know, or people in the news: if I go into a rage about it, I&#8217;m immediately on dangerous ground.  I like to be informed, but I always have to take care not to spend too much attention on political or other types of news that makes me angry &amp; outraged, because pretty soon it turns into a sense of futility &amp; helplessness, thence to depression.   I&#8217;m not a particularly optimistic person, &amp; have to work pretty damn hard to find  happy happy joy joy to begin with — &amp; seldom find <em>any</em> of that in politics or news.</p>
<p>I should add that I don&#8217;t think <em>explode &amp; keep exploding</em> to be any more healthy or helpful a pattern than <em>explode then implode</em>.  Just read some of the reader comments at the <em>Anchorage Daily News</em> website on any story that is the least bit controversial: is all that apoplexy good for<em> anyone</em>&#8216;s blood pressure?</p>
<p><strong>Hungry.</strong> This is the last one for me that fell into place, just in the past four years, prompted by my mother&#8217;s death from heart-related complications of diabetes. I already knew I was prediabetic, but I hadn&#8217;t really done anything about it; but after she did I went all geeky on the nutrition thing &amp; completely overhauled my diet, stopped eating (mostly) refined carbohydrates, moved gradually to a carb-restricted diet (moderate carbs usually; very low carb during major fat-shedding times).</p>
<p>This is not just being hungry in the moment: it&#8217;s about all the factors having to do with <em>I am a body not just a mind</em> &#8212; that without my body, I would <em>have</em> no mind, no spirit. And the body needs to be properly sustained. Thus, not just food itself, but the right kinds of food; and also all the other stuff that goes into making the body healthy. So I think of it as including exercise: exercise isn&#8217;t eating, duh, but it does &#8220;feed&#8221; the body&#8217;s desire/need to be active, which is a kind of hunger.</p>
<p>5-HTP  capped it as the last element (that I know of right now) for handing my depression: since I started taking it May 1998, I&#8217;ve not once gone into the pit. I <em>have</em> gone into the grey &#8212; obviously, since that&#8217;s where I am now &#8212; but usually only when I&#8217;ve forgotten to take the 5-HTP for a couple of weeks (because I&#8217;ve always been lousy at remembering to take daily supplements) &amp; then I&#8217;m hit by something that challenges me. But usually all I have to do now to get back out of the grey is to pay attention to the other elements of HALT, &amp; start taking the 5-HTP again. I&#8217;m usually out in a day or two, where it used to take me as long as a month to get out of a grey.</p>
<p>But &#8212; I haven&#8217;t been missing out on the 5-HTP over the past few weeks, so it&#8217;s not the problem this time.  This time seems to be about <em>tired</em>.  I&#8217;m a night owl, &amp; often have difficulty sending myself to bed at a reasonable hour &#8212; like almost every day last week, so that by Saturday I was fairly leached out.  Slept in &amp; vegged out both Sunday &amp; Monday: it hasn&#8217;t yet turned the trick.  And so, grey, &amp; a bit of a headache too.</p>
<p>Ob-la-di, ob-la-da, life goes on. Blah.  More sleep.  And maybe up the 5-HTP for a few days.  Tomorrow I&#8217;ll feel better.  I hope.</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s all just an act&#8230; or maybe not</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel Green</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My last trip into the pit — my name for the worst form of depression/despair I sometimes go into — was in November &#038; December 2007. Want to know what it feels like? I'll try to explain. And also how I get out of it. <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2009/10/19/its-all-just-an-act-or-maybe-not/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><div><a class="addthis_button" href="//addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250" addthis:url='http://www.henkimaa.com/2009/10/19/its-all-just-an-act-or-maybe-not/' addthis:title='It&#8217;s all just an act&#8230; or maybe not '><img src="//cache.addthis.com/cachefly/static/btn/v2/lg-share-en.gif" width="125" height="16" alt="Bookmark and Share" style="border:0"/></a></div>


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<p>I created this photomosaic &amp; posted it to my Flickr photostream on November 9, 2007 under the title <em>It&#8217;s all just an act</em>.</p>
<p>This is another story about how depression &amp; its close relative despair work their way in my life.</p>
<p>But first I will explain what occasions this topic over any other today. For reassurance to my friends, if nothing else.  Today I&#8217;m in <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2006/11/17/the-grey/">the grey</a>, &amp; something of a light grey at that, which is all to the good.  I&#8217;m not in the state that most of this post is about: what I call <em>the pit</em>. I&#8217;m just a little low in mood from having had to go through some boxes yesterday that allowed an egress to some of the grief that I need mostly to have shuttered away right now.  (It&#8217;s time will come.)</p>
<p>So I feel crummy. But not dangerously crummy.  Not even as crummy today as yesterday.  In short, I&#8217;m okay; tomorrow I should be even okay-er: I&#8217;m doing the necessaries to take care of myself.</p>
<p>But sometimes on such a day it&#8217;s good to remind myself where things can go if I don&#8217;t stay mindful.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 250px"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/henkimaa/1716294722/in/set-72157603376617004/"><img title="Self-portrait, Oct 23, 2007." src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2047/1716294722_4107782b1c_m.jpg" alt="A self-portrait I took on October 23, 2007 -- my moms birthday. I didnt realize until after looking at it that I was feeling pretty low.  Its there in my eyes.  It was just short of two years since her death." width="240" height="180" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A self-portrait I took on October 23, 2007 -- my mom&#39;s birthday. I didn&#39;t realize until after looking at it that I was feeling pretty low.  It&#39;s there in my eyes.  It was just short of two years since her death.</p></div>
<p>Two years ago, when I made that photomosaic: I was feeling pretty bad, from a combination of things. We&#8217;d entered the dark of the year, which also means the cold of the year, plus there was the approaching anniversary of my mom&#8217;s death on November 29, and it was also very shortly after her birthday (October 23). Add in some relationship stuff, &amp; probably I was a bit run down.  Nor did I know about <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2008/05/01/5-htp-depression/">5-HTP</a> then.</p>
<p>And, as is common for me, I had a hard time just coming out &amp; saying I felt bad.  Even in in how I created &amp; posted the photomosaic: I used Photo Booth (a Mac program), which has one setting that allows for particularly lurid colors which give a sense of melodramatic overkill.  I gave the mosaic tags like <em>Mel o&#8217;drama</em> which lent further credibility to the idea that, hey, I was just screwing around, this wasn&#8217;t serious (even though it was). I was a little more honest with another tag: <em>the actor sometimes becomes the character played</em> — though even that was sufficiently obscure that unless someone knew me really well, they would be unlikely to interpret it to know its relation to me.</p>
<p>So what <em>was</em> going on with me?  I was in the pit. The black hole.  The well.  Those are names I have for the worst form of depression/despair that I get — when I&#8217;m just hanging on by threads, &amp; the threads are unraveling.  My thinking unravels, too: it&#8217;s a form of craziness, what my partner Rozz called at the time <em>warped in mel darkspace</em>. Yep. Rozz has seen it many a time. When I&#8217;m in that place, I no longer know things that I know when I&#8217;m sane, &amp; I can cycle into the crazy pretty damn fast.</p>
<p>I actually pulled out of it that November — can&#8217;t remember quite how.  Maybe I just did my basic self-care stuff.  I was in the midst of NaNoWriMo 2007, &amp; in looking back, I see that I wasn&#8217;t turning out much writing for a few days around that episode in the pit.  I wouldn&#8217;t have finished NaNoWriMo that year if I hadn&#8217;t come out of it.  But once NaNoWriMo ended, I started descending into it again in December.  Still, I was just enough sane that on December 2, 2007, three weeks after posting the photo, I wrote a long explanation of what the photo signified.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Written Dec 2, 2007, 3 weeks after posting this picture:</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Thing about these pics is that I really felt that way: the mood I was attempting to depict  in the photos.  Despairing, fucked-up, in the black hole &#8212; ridden by my own personal demon that I&#8217;ve had most all my life.  Over the years I&#8217;ve learned to deal with it, what to do when I start falling into the pit, &amp; normally my time there isn&#8217;t that long anymore.  Two or three days, maybe, instead of weeks or months, &amp; the really horrible intense parts complete with suicidal ideation or at least the desire to disappear last maybe a few hours, instead of as a near constant.  When I feel that way, I look to myself: I pull back from obligations, I make sure to get more sleep, I eat healthily, I don&#8217;t require things of myself except to take care of myself.  Mostly, I try to get horizontal.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Although I have thoughts about suicide or of other self-destructive things at some times, I have never in my life made a suicide attempt.  To the extent in my past that I&#8217;ve engaged in self-harm, it&#8217;s been of the nature of hitting my head against a wall, or hitting it with my fists, or tearing up writing (though that&#8217;s a form of suicide), or throwing something of mine.  I don&#8217;t do that kind of stuff anymore.  Lately, my thoughts frequently will run towards cutting myself off &#8212; say, removing all my profiles from sites like Flickr, kicking off all the mail lists I&#8217;m on, destroying my files&#8230; disappearing.  It would be hard to do.  Pieces of me are scattered all over the place.  When I feel like that, I want to find each &amp; every such piece &amp; extinguish it, &amp; then myself.  I don&#8217;t do it, I have never come close to doing it but it&#8217;s incredibly painful to feel like that.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">I have always been held back from trying by thinking about my family, friends, people who love me.  I couldn&#8217;t do that to them.  One time when I hurt that way, I told my friend Scott, who at that time was my roommate, that I almost wished that everyone who loved me would turn their back on me, because then I would be free to off myself.  Though it was painful to contemplate such a possibility, too: everyone I loved, betraying me at once?  Anyway, Scott just kinda smiled at me wryly &amp; said, <em>Sorry Mel, you&#8217;re just going to have to put up with us loving you</em>.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">But dammit, when it happens, it hurts like all buggery.  (Thank you, Sian, for teaching me that Aussie phrase, which captures the pain of it perfectly.)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">So.  Why then, the title of this photo?   Why the tags that make it seem this is a joke?  Why the lurid colors, which also melodramatize it?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Because some of how this demon came to take such tenacious residence in my soul was through an invitation of sorts, back when I was in high school, &amp; I used to &#8220;pretend&#8221; I was in such a bad place. At that time it <em>was</em> &#8212; or so I though &#8212; all just an act.   I didn&#8217;t have the maturity at the time to consider that maybe there really was something wrong inside of me, that I felt need to manipulate people&#8217;s behavior toward me with such an act.  I only thought of that when I decided to try to put the act aside, &amp; discovered that it wasn&#8217;t an act anymore.  Act <em>as if</em> for a long enough time, &amp; you become the character you play.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">So I&#8217;m caught, ever since, between the rock &amp; the hard place.  Even though it&#8217;s real, &amp; I really feel this way, I&#8217;m also very conscious of how people around me are reacting to my behavior, &amp; I feel that I&#8217;m being manipulative, &amp; I feel wrong about that because manipulation is wrong.  So nothing I can do is the right thing.  If I show myself in this state to people, then I&#8217;m manipulating them.  If I go into hiding, that may in one part  be another way of manipulating, but even more importantly, I cut myself off from the people who care about me, who I often need, to help me climb back out of the pit.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Pretty screwed up thinking, really.  Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I have come a far long way since I was 16 or 17 in high school, &amp; I&#8217;m usually pretty good about asking for help nowadays when I need it.  But this screwed-up thinking still occurs sometimes, &amp; it&#8217;s been occurring a few times over the past couple of months, for reasons that I&#8217;m only starting to figure out.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">That&#8217;s what this picture is.  It&#8217;s a visual demonstration of that screwed up thinking.  Which I put together even as I was struggling with it.  Because yes, I took these photos when I was in the deep in the pit, trying to communicate to any who would see them that I was in pain, that I needed some kind of help, if only that my state of mind would be recognized.  But see &#8212; I believe, I truly believed in the midst of my pain that if I just showed the photos straight on, or even just said outright, &#8220;I&#8217;m hurting bad right now,&#8221; that I&#8217;d be manipulating.  So I undercut it.  Use the &#8220;glow&#8221; effect in Photo Booth to get those lurid, melodramatic colors.  Use tags &amp; a title that make it seem just pretend.  Though it wasn&#8217;t.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">It&#8217;s hard to communicate honestly when I&#8217;m like that.  Because when I&#8217;m like that, I&#8217;m crazy.  It&#8217;s a form of delusion, of madness.  I literally do not understand that it is okay to simply say, &#8220;I&#8217;m in pain right now.&#8221;</span></p>
<div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 250px"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/henkimaa/2080659108/"><img title="Remote" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/2080659108_69ae27eae2_m.jpg" alt="Remote. Photo taken Dec. 2, 2007, the same day I wrote this account." width="240" height="164" /></a></span><p class="wp-caption-text">Remote. Photo taken Dec. 2, 2007, the same day I wrote this account.</p></div>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">But you know, lately I&#8217;ve been noticing a couple of friends/acquaintances on Flickr who have been going through tremendously painful situations themselves, who have reminded me of that.  I&#8217;m writing this from a state that is near but not quite in the black hole (same date as the photo <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/henkimaa/2080659108/">Remote</a>), so I&#8217;m still near enough to sanity that I was able to check my descent into that screwed up thinking.  I&#8217;m in a bad headspace today, but today (December 2, 2007) I&#8217;m just going to say that.  Instead of putting on the act that isn&#8217;t an act.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">So here it is.  I&#8217;m in a bad headspace today.  It isn&#8217;t quite the black hole, but it&#8217;s not okay either.  It&#8217;ll right itself, but it hasn&#8217;t yet.  Today, it rises out of some events that I&#8217;m not really prepared to talk with anyone about.   So, I&#8217;m probably going to be a little remote for a bit, till I do work it out.  But, better to be honest &amp; say so, than to just kite off by myself without leaving a note.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">And having written all this, I&#8217;m already feeling a bit better.  I may not have to go remote for a very long period after all.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">Thanks for listening.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>As it turned out, the following day was the really bad one, when sanity absolutely fled midway through my day at work.  I was able to hold on to just enough sanity to put out a call for help, which took the form of a tweet, typo &amp; all:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">3:23 PM: Imploding. I guess that&#8217;s better than exploding &amp; killing someone. But I&#8217;m fucked in the head, badlyl.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you know it: Twitter (still a fairly new thing back in 2007) was updating slowly that day.  I don&#8217;t think anyone got my tweet until the next day.  I tried again over an hour later:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">4:47 PM: Imploding. Better than exploding &amp; killing someone I guess, but still pretty fucked up.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Twitter still malfunctioning: no response.  And when you&#8217;re already crazy, &amp; don&#8217;t know the software is muckety-mucking, the paranoid portion of your mind goes, <em>Nobody even gives a shit!</em></p>
<p>So I&#8217;m pretty amazed that I, working late &amp; still in my office, tried again:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">6:11 PM: Inside of my mind is getting worse &amp; worse. Could someone pull me out of it please?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;">6:20 PM: Seriously. Usually I do okay fending for myself, but I&#8217;m not fending too well today.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Still no response.  But luckily, my Flickr friend Katie came online in Gmail — probably the very best person possible, because she was someone who knew from the inside the kind of crazy I was experiencing, &amp; therefore knew exactly how to talk me down.  (She told me later her thinking was <span style="color: #800000;">&#8220;hmm. now what would mel tell me when she was sane &amp; i was going through a rough time?&#8221;</span>) Here&#8217;s a portion of our conversation, a partial transcript, if you will, of the crazy:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me: </strong>hey</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> hey mel whats up</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> head&#8217;s been in a bad place for a couple of days now</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> oh dear, whats been going on</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> not sure really but it&#8217;s been getting worse today because i&#8217;m in a nobody gives a shit mode<br />
&amp; starting to engage in cut &amp; run behaviors<br />
like removing all my pics except one from [a Flickr group we were both in]</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie: </strong>ah yes, i&#8217;ve gone through that &#8230;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> &amp; feeling like just removing myself from groups &amp; shit altogether b/c i feel like nobody gives a shit</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> dont do that &#8211; people do &#8230; it&#8217;s just the frame of mind you&#8217;re in that&#8217;s fooling you into thiking so</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> yeah i know i&#8217;m just barely remembering that<br />
but it&#8217;s on the edge at the moment</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie: </strong>hmm, well i&#8217;ll remember for you &#8230; don&#8217;t do it !</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> some guy here killed his dad with a machete yesterday &amp; then came in to anchorage &amp; shot some innocent grad student in his car &amp; killed him &amp; badly wounded a couple of other people during his rampage<br />
he got caught after a car jacking this morning<br />
&amp; i&#8217;m like, well, that&#8217;s the way i feel<br />
except i take it into myself<br />
instead of runnign around fucking other people&#8217;s lives over<br />
but it&#8217;s kinda like today<br />
oh let me not mention how badly i&#8217;m feeling, lest i ruin your day</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The rampage mentioned was that of Christopher Erin Rogers, Jr. on December 2–3, 2007. Rogers was ultimately convicted in two separate trials of two murders and four attempted murders in Palmer and Anchorage, plus animal cruelty for his attack on the dog that saved the life of his father&#8217;s fiance. And I would say that Rogers, whose confession was heard by the jury in his second trial in Anchorage, very much had a similar kind of craziness going on his mind which prompted his crimes. <a href="http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/crime/story/746673.html">Read the details for yourself</a>. <span style="color: #008000;">[Ref #1]</span> Something, who knows what exactly, set him off, &amp; he went explosive, harming &amp; even killing other people. And, as is so often the case, refusing to accept that <em>he </em>was responsible: not aliens, not other people with their perceived mistreatment of him.</p>
<p>Well, if I&#8217;m going to sometimes go crazy, I&#8217;m sure glad I don&#8217;t do it that way.  My tendency is to implode: I don&#8217;t harm others (usually), I harm myself.  And I suppose another difference between me &amp; Rogers is that I do my best to take responsibility for my craziness.</p>
<p>Not, to be sure, when I&#8217;m actively crazy: then I&#8217;m just as likely to blame other people.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie: </strong>you can never ruin someone elses day by tell them you&#8217;re having a bad day</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> no i can just tell &#8216;em i&#8217;m having a bad day &amp; they can go &#8220;oh shit, mel&#8217;s having a bad day, better avoid her so i don&#8217;t ruin myown&#8221;<br />
that&#8217;s the way my thinking&#8217;s giong today<br />
because i&#8217;m all fucked up</span></p></blockquote>
<p>But at least I recognized I wasn&#8217;t thinking sanely.  And had taken enough responsibility for my craziness over the long haul of my life that by that point in time, I had at least a few clues of what to do to help myself, by getting help &#8212; especially from someone like Katie who had (1) some knowledge of the kind of stuff I was going through from the inside, &amp; (2) had the patience to listen.</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> I don&#8217;t think telling people you&#8217;re in a bad space will put them in a bad mood, at least it wouldn&#8217;t to me &#8230; i&#8217;d just like to help you no longer be there &#8230; hmm, do people actually say that? oh right. okay &#8230; well, know that people definitely don&#8217;t feel that way, they just get awkward in dealing with depression &#8230;<br />
what can we talk about that would help you?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> i dunno, this is probably helping just to say the kinds of thoughts that have been going through me all day</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie: </strong>okay, keep them coming</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> y&#8217;know, i wrote a really long thing to that &#8220;it&#8217;s all an act&#8221; photo to about 4 or 5 am satnight/sunday morning explaining how it all works<br />
laura saw it, rozz saw it, they commented<br />
dunno who else saw it<br />
but this morning i privated it<br />
that&#8217;s kinda part of what set me off feeling like well basically most people don&#8217;t give a shit<br />
they don&#8217;t mind you saying you&#8217;ve got the flu<br />
but say anything about the really hard shit, then too fucking bad<br />
well that&#8217;s not completely true<br />
[some people have lots of people batting for them]<br />
but me, no, i should be over all the kind of shit that i&#8217;ve got in my soul<br />
me, i should just take drugs<br />
me, i should just shit or get off the pot</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> you feel like that&#8217;s how people feel towards you?<br />
that you should just take drugs or shit or get off the pot?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> wehn i get like this, meds is one of the first topics to come up</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> i don&#8217;t think meds are a good idea</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> neither do i<br />
mostly i think people just want to have fun &amp; not be bogged down by someone&#8217;s shit</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> that might be true &#8211; but for the most part, i think people geerally just don&#8217;t kow how to handle deep things &#8211; because it ends up shining a light inwards to their oen stuff &#8211; which they defiitely dont want to deal with</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> though for some reason they get along with some people&#8217;s shit better than mine<br />
yeah you&#8217;re right about that i think</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> it&#8217;s not that they don&#8217;t get along with your shit mel, i think maybe it&#8217;s the fact that you seem strong? i think people might think that when you get down &#8211; you just want to isolate and you don&#8217;t want to talk about things .. maybe? i&#8217;m not really sure</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> this is the worst i&#8217;ve gotten into the whole rock &amp; a hard place stuff about feeling like anyting i do is manipulating people in a reaaaaaaaallly long time<br />
which is the very worst kind of thinking i have, i get so confused, i don&#8217;t feel like anything i do is right w/ regard to other people</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> i think that maybe because you feel like you&#8217;re manipulating people, you don&#8217;t ask for help &#8230; so people don&#8217;t really know that you want people to surround you in these times<br />
catch 22<br />
perhaps</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> yeah very big catch 22 gods it hurts</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Katie:</strong> Hmm &#8230; well &#8230; i&#8217;m going to tell you that &#8230; you aren&#8217;t manipulating people when you want attention. None of us are. We all want help, we all want attention and there is nothing wrong with it, honestly. But i don&#8217;t knowif me telling you that will make that belief real for you or not</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>me:</strong> so i have all these destructive urges giong on<br />
i know that stuff when i&#8217;m sane but i&#8217;m not sane right now</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Be that as it may: the conversation helped to restore me to sanity. It&#8217;s also because of Katie that I reset the permissions on the &#8220;It&#8217;s all an act&#8221; photo back to public, &amp; left them there. She went on to &#8220;babysit&#8221; me for the next bit of time while I finished the task I was working overtime to complete, &amp; by the time I left my office I was able to tweet:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #008000;">8:16 PM: Better now, thanks to Katie.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>I reckon it took another couple of days for me to get completely away from the edge of the pit, doing the things I know to do: plenty or rest, good food, keeping the demands on myself low, &amp; — importantly — not isolating myself.  Nobody got killed, including me.  (At the height of the crazy I did indulge in some &#8220;virtual suicide&#8221; — deleting files &amp; so on — but somehow restrained myself from destroying anything <em>really</em> important to me.)</p>
<p>That was my last trip into the pit.  (Knock on wood.)  Even over the past year, during which I&#8217;ve experienced considerable loss — I&#8217;ve gone into the grey a number of times, but never into the pit.  When I feel myself at its edge, I&#8217;m lots more ready to follow the advice that Katie gave me, same advice I have given others when I was sane &amp; they were not: ask for help from the people I know care about me.</p>
<p>It also helps that I now know about <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2008/05/01/5-htp-depression/">5-HTP</a>.  And use it.</p>
<h2><span style="color: #008000;">References</span></h2>
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<li>4/2/09. <a href="http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/crime/story/746673.html">&#8220;Accused murderer Rogers blamed aliens for 2007 attacks — ROGERS: Jurors hear taped confession of deadly events in Palmer and Anchorage&#8221;</a> by Debra McKinney (<em>Anchorage Daily News</em>).</li>
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		<dc:creator>Mel Green</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The grey</em> is a term I have for one of my modes of experiencing depression.  <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2006/11/17/the-grey/">I wrote about it three years ago</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300;">The grey is like a great grey landscape of bleakness, just dust &amp; stones. Emotionally dead: I can&#8217;t rouse me, nor can anyone else, to laughter or fun, certainly not joy; but nor can I be roused to great negative passions like hatred, anger. Annoyance, maybe. It&#8217;s hard to talk in any but the business sense, by which I mean I can conduct the necessary communications to accomplish my job, or buy something at the store, but it&#8217;s not good for banter, it&#8217;s not good for discussion of politics or my feelings, it&#8217;s not good for intimacy. Better off to leave me alone. Better for me to be left alone. No, correct that: it&#8217;s can be very good to have company, but company needs to be quiet &amp; nondemanding. I need not to be made to talk.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty much how I was feeling yesterday, &amp; to some extent the day before. Coming out of it is something like waking from a bad dream: one looks around, one sighs in relief with the sure knowledge that the bad dream is not, in fact, true: there is color in the world, &amp; life, &amp; it breathes in you.</p>
<p>This was a short bout.  Over time I&#8217;ve had enough experience with depression that I&#8217;ve learned pretty well how to manage it, &amp; get myself out of it sooner rather than later.  As of three years ago, the state of my art was —</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300;">I get lots &amp; lots of sleep. I make sure I&#8217;m still eating well. I don&#8217;t have high expectations of myself. I vedge out. I pull back from overcommitments as well as commitments to stuff that prevents me from doing the good stuff (like writing) that feeds my spirit. And when my energy picks up, I do that good stuff that feeds my spirit.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>But since then I&#8217;ve added something in, a supplement I learned about last year called 5-HTP.  <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2008/05/01/5-htp-depression/">I&#8217;ve written about that too</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #993300;">5-HTP is an intermediate between the amino acid tryptophan (oh ye of post-Thanksgiving turkey dinner sleepiness fame) &amp; the neurotransmitter serotonin, whose activity is targeted by a lot of antidepressants. Thus, 5-HTP is alternative to antidepressants — &amp; from my standpoint, a superior one.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Why do I think it&#8217;s superior? For one, it&#8217;s available over the counter, a natural supplement for something the body produces naturally.  For another, it has few if any negative side-effects (or, as they are more honestly known, <em>effects</em>).  It&#8217;s those negative effects that have always steered me clear of SSRIs &amp; other psychopharmaceuticals that have been often suggested to me.  It also seems to work differently than the SSRIs — <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_serotonin_reuptake_inhibitor">selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors</a>, whose mechanism is to keep the supply of serotonin that one has in the brain in circulation for longer; whereas 5-HTP supplementation provides more of the raw material needed to synthesize more serotonin: increasing its supply, rather than merely keeping a limited supply moving around for longer.  The scientifically inclined can correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.  But I don&#8217;t think I am.</p>
<p>So: veg out, sleep, eat right, 5-HTP, &amp; I feel lots better.  Enough so that I can even contemplate attending yet another round of public hearings on the Anchorage equal rights ordinance at the Anchorage Assembly tonight, complete with however much repetition of the same <a href="http://www.henkimaa.com/2009/06/23/christianist/"> Christianist</a> &#8220;Truth is Not Hate&#8221; hate speech that we&#8217;ve already heard over &amp; over &amp; over &amp; over (etc.) again.</p>
<p>Not something I cared to contemplate doing when I already felt separated from any joy in the world.  Now I can not only contemplate it, but can even consider what it is about the Christianist world-view that seemingly makes joy an even rarer commodity for them.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mel Green</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned recently that 5-HTP is an intermediate between the amino acid tryptophan (oh ye of post-Thanksgiving turkey dinner sleepiness fame) &amp; the neurotransmitter serotonin, whose activity is targeted by a lot of antidepressants. Thus, 5-HTP is alternative to antidepressants–&amp; from my standpoint, a  superior one.  This is important to me given my history of problems with depression. Since I&#8217;m also insulin resistant (prediabetic), the metabolism of carbs &amp; their intimate relationship with tryptophan &amp; hence serotonin levels is crucial.</p>
<p>When I overhauled my diet to a low glycemic/moderate carb diet a couple of years ago, I discovered that I was just as prone to fall into depression if I went <span style="font-style:italic;">too low</span> in carbs as I did when I was my carb intake was <span style="font-style:italic;">too high</span>.  I don&#8217;t seem to be having that problem so much now, as I go to a lower carb diet. Maybe I&#8217;ve adapted.  But I&#8217;m now also supplementing with 5-HTP.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I understand the mechanism relating carbs &amp; insulin to tryptophan &gt; 5-HTP &gt; serotonin to mood disorders like depression (&amp; probably other things like road rage, anxiety, etc.).</p>
<p>Low serotonin levels frequently (especially in insulin resistant people whose blood sugars are all over the map) lead to carb cravings because intake of carbs brings (as most of us here will know) increase in insulin secretion.  The insulin works not only to control blood glucose (as best it can), but also to cause various amino acids to be absorbed into body tissues &#8212; except apparently tryptophan isn&#8217;t absorbed as much.  This then leads to tryptophan to have less competition from other amino acids for riding the carrier molecule they use to get through the blood-brain barrier, where the tryptophan is synthesized into 5-HTP &amp; from 5-HTP into serotonin.  The effect of eating carbs for the depressed person is, thus, to increase serotonin levels into the brain &#8212; but at a cost (higher blood sugars, higher blood insulin, increase in insulin resistance &amp; obesity, etc.).</p>
<p>The reason it might be better to supplement with 5-HTP than tryptophan is because: (1) tryptophan is also used in the body to synthesize other products, which might not hold as much advantage for mood issues, whereas (I think) 5-HTP is used mainly to synthesize serotonin; &amp; (2) 5-HTP has a much easier time getting through the blood/brain barrier than tryptophan &#8212; apparently doesn&#8217;t require the carrier molecule that tryptophan does (in which tryptophan competes with other amino acids).</p>
<p>My source for this info is the book <span style="font-style:italic;">Hunger Free Forever: The New Science of Appetite Control</span> by Michael T. Murray, N.D. and Michael R. Lyon, M.D.  Murray has also written a book specifically about 5-HTP.  I&#8217;ll see if I can find actual scientific cites.  In any case, so far it&#8217;s working well for me<span style="font-style:italic;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-style:italic;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">Update 12 May 2008:</span></span> I finally got around to finding a reference. Here is is, with its abstract.</p>
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<li>Birdsall TC.. <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9727088">5-Hydroxytryptophan: a clinically-effective serotonin precursor</a>. Altern Med Rev. 1998 Aug;3(4):271-80.(Full article with references is available at <a href="http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/3/4/271.pdf">http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/3/4/271.pdf</a>.)
<p><span style="font-style:italic;">5-Hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) is the intermediate metabolite of the essential amino acid L-tryptophan (LT) in the biosynthesis of serotonin. Intestinal absorption of 5-HTP does not require the presence of a transport molecule, and is not affected by the presence of other amino acids; therefore it may be taken with meals without reducing its effectiveness. Unlike LT, 5-HTP cannot be shunted into niacin or protein production. Therapeutic use of 5-HTP bypasses the conversion of LT into 5-HTP by the enzyme tryptophan hydroxylase, which is the rate-limiting step in the synthesis of serotonin. 5-HTP is well absorbed from an oral dose, with about 70 percent ending up in the bloodstream. It easily crosses the blood-brain barrier and effectively increases central nervous system (CNS) synthesis of serotonin. In the CNS, serotonin levels have been implicated in the regulation of sleep, depression, anxiety, aggression, appetite, temperature, sexual behaviour, and pain sensation. Therapeutic administration of 5-HTP has been shown to be effective in treating a wide variety of conditions, including depression, fibromyalgia, binge eating associated with obesity, chronic headaches, and insomnia.</span></li>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really have problems much with food cravings, not after two years of eating a low-glycemic diet &amp; being sure I don&#8217;t skip breakfast. And I haven&#8217;t had a big sweet tooth for even longer than that.  Nor have I ever been an insomniac.  But I still sometimes slide into the pit, &amp; while I know how to get out of it, it&#8217;d be nice to avoid it altogether.  So for the past couple of weeks I&#8217;ve been supplementing with 5-HTP, &amp; have noticed that I do feel a slight elevation of mood even from what my normal &#8220;good mood&#8221; feels like.</p>
<p>Not so much related to depression, but still related to food cravings: I also learned some interesting stuff recently through a book called <em>Hunger Free Forever: The New Science of Appetite Control</em> by Michael T. Murray, N.D. and Michael R. Lyon, M.D. about some relevant scientific findings about the relationship between food cravings &amp; what they call <strong>blood sugar (glycemic) volatility</strong>.  In essence, through studies using some new types of glucometers that permit researchers to monitor an individual&#8217;s blood glucose readings 24/7, they&#8217;ve learned that inappropriate hunger pangs come on most frequently when there is a rapid fall in blood glucose.  So for example: you eat a large meal that includes a lot of high-GI carbs, which causes your blood sugar to spike fast. That&#8217;s followed by a large influx of insulin from your pancreas to deal with the sugars, which leads then to a fairly rapid <em>lowering</em> of your blood sugar.  If you&#8217;re insulin resistant, especially, this lowering might be <em>really</em> rapid, &amp; you may experience symptoms of hypoglycemia (sweatiness, shakiness, etc.) even if you your blood sugar doesn&#8217;t go down to hypoglycemic levels (defined as &lt;= 70 mg/dL blood glucose).  And you may then have hunger pangs, even if that meal you just ate was high in calories.</p>
<p>This adds to the reasoning behind low-glycemic eating being a reaaaaaaaally good idea for people who are insulin resistant.  You want to reduce your blood sugar volatility as much as possible, &amp; low GI is a way to do that.  Besides its other bad effects, high blood sugar volatility leads to hunger pangs &amp; overeating.  It&#8217;s especially helpful to eat low GI diets that are high in fiber (lets hear it for nonstarchy high fiber veggies all over again! &amp; many wonderful fruits as well), because fiber will fill up your stomach so you feel full for longer, &amp; it also slows stomach emptying, which both promotes a long-lasting sense of satiety <em>and</em> slows the rate at which carbohydrates in your meal are transformed &amp; transported into blood glucose in your blood.</p>
<p>I firmly believe that it is completely unnecessary for anyone to feel hungry simply because they are working do reduce the amount of fat on their bodies.  It is possible to burn off fat &amp; feel happily satiated doing it.  I know it is, because I&#8217;m doing it myself.</p>
<p>(I am gonna try to find some of the actual studies these guys cite that show the relationship between blood glucose volatility &amp; hunger pangs vs. satiety.  Hugely relevant to me.)</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had lifelong issues with <b>depression &amp; despair</b> — though I&#8217;ve never really thought about how they might be related to PCOS or insulin resistance.  I have, over time, learned the things I need to do to take care of myself when the pit starts encroaching on me.  I&#8217;ve never done antidepressants.  Someone mentioned to me taking birth control pills (for PCOS) as masking a serious issue — I agree! — I also haven&#8217;t wanted to take antidepressants to mask the issues there, or to take on additional health problems because of so-called &#8220;side&#8221;-effects.</p>
<p>(Also known as: <i>effects</i>, without the trivializing qualification <i>side-</i>.  Rant mode on: <i>Side-</i> effects are just the effects the pharmaceutical company wants to think aren&#8217;t significant so you&#8217;ll buy their drug.  Sorta like how Eli Lilly&#8217;s antipsychotic drug Zyprexa, intended for people with schizophrenia &amp; bipolar, is said to have a <i>side-</i>effect of weight gain &amp; increased diabetes risk. Eli Lilly is in court right now in Anchorage, sued by the State of Alaska for how it minimized these health risks so that all kinds of Alaskans who might otherwise not have been are now Type 2 diabetics as a result of having been prescribed Zyprexa.  There&#8217;s a bunch of other states that have filed suit as well.  End rant mode.)</p>
<p><b>How I deal when I feel depression coming on</b>: some of it is attention to an old Twelve-Step program acronym, HALT: Hungry Angry Lonely Tired.  So I focus on getting enough <i>healthy</i> stuff to eat; taking care of my emotional &amp; personal issues, especially interpersonal issues that involve resentments &amp; anger; not getting isolated &amp; having a good social network of family &amp; friends; &amp; getting enough sleep. Beside that, I know to make sure I&#8217;m not taking on too much, which I have frequently done in the past; that I&#8217;m getting good exercise, which elevates my mood; &amp; that I&#8217;m not confusing my depressing thoughts with reality: thoughts are just like clouds, &amp; I don&#8217;t have to attach myself to them.  Hence, I have never attempted suicide, though I&#8217;ve had suicidal thoughts oh just lots &amp; lots of times.  Although I follow the news, I avoid going too deeply into it especially on items that really make me feel angry or helpless, because that hits all my despair-buttons.  (I do what I can to improve the world in my own little neck of it, but I don&#8217;t put myself in the way anymore of helpless feelings about not being able to save the whole world all by myself.)</p>
<p>Most recently I learned about <b>5-HTP</b>.  Can&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t know about it before.  It&#8217;s a complex that is one of the products your body synthesizes out of the amino acid tryptophan (of Thanksgiving post-dinner turkey sleepiness fame), &amp; which in turn your body synthesizes into the neurotransmitter serotonin.  Which is the neurotransmitter whose activity most of the later antidepressants, such as the SSRIs (selective serotonin uptake inhibitors) like Prozac &amp; Zoloft are designed to manipulate.  Well, why use an SSRI because you don&#8217;t have enough serotonin in your brain, when you can just manufacture more serotonin itself, by having adequate supplies of 5-HTP to manufacture it with?  Besides that, 5-HTP also has been shown to help reduce food cravings &amp; hence is an aid in fighting obesity (for reasons having to do with the relationship between carbohydrate consumption &amp; how tryptophan gets past the blood/brain barrier into the brain) &amp; also in helping reduce insomnia.</p>
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